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Unlimited calls but charged for call to 447893921995, why

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jbowsher wrote:

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It could not be answered specifically where the 078939... Was identified as a non standard 07 number and what non standard means.  Would like to know what a FM10 number actually is.

I see it now.  It's very difficult to know if a mobile number actually falls in this.

Regards 

 

@jbowsher, I think these non-standard numbers were originally allocated to telephony service providers, in the days preceding UK mobile number portability rules.

With the advent of OFCOM mobile number portability, a mobile number from the FM10 service provider range could be ported to another mobile operator where any non-standard charges should not apply.

Seems a grey area and perhaps iD should review their non-standard 07 mobile number charging, and maybe the live chat agents also need better training in this area.

 

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andewhite
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Unfortunately that number falls within the non-standard 07 numbers range, so the call wasn’t able to use your call allowance @jbowsher.

There’s more about this online at https://www.idmobile.co.uk/help-and-advice/call-charges (in the “Standard out-of-plan changes” section).

Which refers to https://media.secure-mobiles.com/idmobile/documents/non-standard-07-numbers.pdf.

 


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  • October 19, 2023

This is not correct. Else every call to UK mobile from UK mobile would be out of plan.

 

Do you mean 070 or 076 sub numbers rather than the 078 number I highlighted?

 

Personal numbering services (starting 070) per min £0.55
Pager calls (starting 076) £1.22
Corporate numbering service (starting 070) per min £0.55

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The +44 7893 9-- --- number called falls in the begins with range of “078939”, contained in the iD Mobile list of non-standard 07 numbers.

There’s a link in the highlighted section which takes you to an extensive list of what iD Mobile call non-standard 07 numbers, which they exclude from call allowances. 

https://media.secure-mobiles.com/idmobile/documents/non-standard-07-numbers.pdf


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  • October 21, 2023

Hi @jbowsher,

Welcome to the Community!

We hope that @andewhite has answered your question.

If you require further assistance, please get back to us here.

 

Kash


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  • October 21, 2023

Yes Andrew much appreciated.  When I raised this in live chat was sent a link and they said 07 was out of plan, but the link only say pay for 07 mobile calls at set rate 40pm when out of plan.  But as unlimited calls would never get to this.

 

It could not be answered specifically where the 078939... Was identified as a non standard 07 number and what non standard means.  Would like to know what a FM10 number actually is.

 

I see it now.  It's very difficult to know if a mobile number actually falls in this.

 

Regards 

 

 


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  • October 23, 2023

Hi @jbowsher 

 

We’ll feed this back.

 

Tom


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jbowsher wrote:

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It could not be answered specifically where the 078939... Was identified as a non standard 07 number and what non standard means.  Would like to know what a FM10 number actually is.

I see it now.  It's very difficult to know if a mobile number actually falls in this.

Regards 

 

@jbowsher, I think these non-standard numbers were originally allocated to telephony service providers, in the days preceding UK mobile number portability rules.

With the advent of OFCOM mobile number portability, a mobile number from the FM10 service provider range could be ported to another mobile operator where any non-standard charges should not apply.

Seems a grey area and perhaps iD should review their non-standard 07 mobile number charging, and maybe the live chat agents also need better training in this area.

 


Red Monaco
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Nowhere on ID website does it warn people that 078939 numbers are classed by them as Non-Normal. Until it does they should not charge people for them

 

Definitely not fair and shouldn't be charged for until it is stated that you would be on their website!!!


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Red Monaco wrote:

Nowhere on ID website does it warn people that 078939 numbers are classed by them as Non-Normal. Until it does they should not charge people for them

 

Definitely not fair and shouldn't be charged for until it is stated that you would be on their website!!!

Okay @Red Monaco, there’s a link for out-of-plan charges on the iD website, and also in the online iD contract terms & conditions.

https://www.idmobile.co.uk/help-and-advice/call-charges

The out-of-plan charges page mentions charges for calling a non-standard mobile number, but the iD terms & conditions don’t specifically cover charges for non-standard mobile numbers.

All the UK mobile network operators appear to charge for these so-called non-standard mobile numbers.

 

 

 


Red Monaco
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Firstly you have to go thru 2 links before finding a list of what ID class as “non-standard mobile numbers”. So not intuitive by any means. And then there are 98 of them!! Who is going to check thru this list of 98 mobile prefixes before they make a call. Not many people I wouldn't have thought. It should be made clear with an announcement such as other providers do when you phone 0800 numbers etc. I have never seen these prefixes being used by other providors and have certainly never been charged for them before. 


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Indeed @Red Monaco, completely agree - finding the specific non-standard mobile numbers information is not easy, but the terms & conditions do cover this topic. 

Perhaps in an era of blame-somebody-else-first, it’s fine saying yes I’ve read the terms & conditions, but actually I haven’t, and then claim not my fault.

 

 


Tom
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  • May 27, 2024

Hi @Red Monaco 

 

Sorry to hear this, to avoid any unwanted charges such as calling a non-standard number it may be best to apply a bill cap you’re comfortable with, should you be about to go over the bill cap, we’d stop your usage so that it cannot be exceeded.

 

Tom


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