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October 6, 2023

A better way to use WiFi calling!

  • October 6, 2023
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Hi all!

I just joined iD Mobile with a brand new Samsung A34 5G 256GB/8GB phone on their unlimited everything package; it was an amazing deal, and so far, I am very impressed with both the mobile and iD support.

I have started this conversation because, having trawled the Internet, the most relevant question/answer I found was on this very forum about a year ago; however, the 'solution' was a workaround as opposed to a proper fix, and, as an engineer, I like to find the best possible solution to a problem.

WiFi calling, together with a solid WiFi signal linking you to a high bandwidth Internet connection, should be the most brilliant solution to a poor cellular signal at home or work, but unless you can keep it locked on when needed, chocolate teapots and fireguards come to mind 😉.

For those not familiar, by default, when you activate WiFi calling, it is in 'prefer cellular' as opposed to 'prefer WiFi' mode. What does that mean? Well, prefer cellular means that if there is even the tiniest sniff of a cellular signal, the phone will try to use that instead of routing the call over WiFi. If, like me, you live somewhere where mobile signal is terrible to non-existant in the house, that means the icon on the phone indicating that calls will/are being routed over WiFi goes on and off like a belisha beacon with changing atmospheric conditions, and call quality alternates between excellent, terrible and non-existant at random.

I am very grateful to @andewhite for providing the workaround to this in his reply to a member's question a year ago: put the phone in flight mode (kills all three radio transceivers for cellular, WiFi and Bluetooth) and then toggle WiFi and Bluetooth back on, leaving the cellular disabled; the result is that the phone cannot see any cellular signal and the WiFi calling is locked on. That means, for the first time in 6 years of living at my address, I can actually use my mobile phone at home with 100% call reliability and quality. Indeed, it also means the problem is solved at many of my work locations too, all thanks to @andewhite's workaround.

However, the reason I say 'workaround' is because there is a proper solution: on my new mobile, as with most modern phones, there is a sub-menu under the WiFi calling setting to select preference for cellular (the default) or WiFi calling; if you change the setting to prefer WiFi, the phone will always use WiFi to route the call when the phone is attached to a good WiFi network irrespective of cellular signal strength. This is the proper 'fire and forget' solution because there is no faff to enable/disable flight mode when entering/leaving work/home and the risk of forgetting and missing calls [albeit, I accept that a digital assistant can remind you to switch flight mode off when you leave the home].

Well, I hear you say, what is your problem... switch to 'prefer WiFi' mode! Well, I would love to, but... I cannot get to that sub-menu on my phone. Why? Because the Three network, which iD Mobile use as the carrier, disable it for some unknown reason. I rang Samsung because I thought there was a problem with my phone, and they told me that the visibility of those menu options are totally controlled by the carrier, and if a carrier does not support WiFi calling, I would not even see the button to toggle it on or off; they told me to contact my carrier to ask them to enable it. Incidentally, I tried a friend's SIM (which is a different carrier, not Three) in my mobile and, as if by magic, I can see the sub-menu and select 'prefer WiFi'. My friend is very grateful to me for pointing out the fix for him, but that does not help us, so...

I called iD Mobile support, and they told me to visit a Currys PC World branch (iD Mobile is owned by Currys) and ask them to sort the issue. I did so, and their mobile guru had no idea what to do, so he called iD who raised a support ticket with Three. Three came back after a few days with a robotic answer telling iD to make sure the customer had WiFi calling enabled and to check the quality of my WiFi signal... not helpful at all! ID have kindly sent another [more bluntly-worded] support ticket into Three, and I will update on that when I hear back. My company also use the Three network for our work mobiles, so in parallel, our IT team have also raised a support ticket with Three to ask for either the phone menu to be made available or, if they refuse, to change the default mode to 'prefer WiFi' their end. Again, I will report back.

Sorry for the long message, but I hope it helps some people and, at the very least, sparks some debate 🙂

P.S. I did explore using one of the WiFi calling apps which proport to 'force' the two options to prefer cellular or WiFi, and they even claim to make the WiFi calling feature available even if you have an older phone/firmware that does not support it, but I was put off because reviews gave poor feedback, and the apps themselves did not seem to come from professional/reliable developers.

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boothy99
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June 9, 2024

Ok thanks for passing the request on @Tom 👍 Appreciated. Fingers crossed it's hopefully provisioned.

andewhite
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June 9, 2024

Ok thanks for passing the request on @Tom 👍 Appreciated. Fingers crossed it's hopefully provisioned.

You never know, but don't hold your breath, @boothy99.

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boothy99
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June 9, 2024

Too late @andewhite .... I'm holding it 😳🥺😂

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September 27, 2024

Good morning all

I am the original poster. You may find this VERY useful…

Using my Android routine workaround to automatically turn flight mode on when on a trusted WiFi connection to force WiFi calling worked until my last firmware update a few weeks ago. I can still call out okay, but people calling me get voicemail; experimenting, I found that when flight mode is first activated, I can receive calls fine, but after a few minutes it does not work. Making an outgoing call fixes it again for a few minutes, but then I am unobtainable again.

If I disable the flight mode, I can receive calls over WiFi calling reliably, but obviously, I am back to WiFi calling dropping as soon as there is a sniff of cellular signal.

I started searching for any new posts on the issue, and, amazingly, I found one that mentioned that the Google assistant can get to the prefer WiFi/cellular sub-menu. I found that hard to believe, so I changed the default assistant on my phone from Alexa to Google and [using speech recognition] said "change WiFi calling options"; to my astonishment, the screen below appeared, and I was able to select the 'call over WiFi' preference. It is working perfectly, and I rebooted the phone to make sure that did not reset the preference. Even if I move outside my house and get 3 bars of cellular signal, so long as my WiFi is connected, the WiFi calling symbol at the top right of the phone is on... fantastic!

Using my Android settings menu for the phone, there is still no preference sub-menu under WiFi calling, but somehow Google assistant can access it. I would be interested to know if this works for you too.

Cheers, GB

 

 

boothy99
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September 27, 2024

😪😭 

No such luck here. I used Google Assistant which opened the WiFi Calling setting, but it's no different than before on my (fully updated) Google Pixel 6 / android 14.

 

 

No additional options to "Prefer" WiFi Calling.

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September 27, 2024

Hi @boothy99 

What a shame. On my Samsung A34 5G, if I put an EE SIM in I can see the sub-menu on the Android settings menu, so my phone definitely has the ability to toggle the preferences, and it is just that IDMobile (Three) hide it; does your Pixel 6 show the sub-menu if you were to use an EE SIM?

boothy99
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September 27, 2024

Hi @gauge_boson ... nope, I don't have an EE SIM to try, but I'm aware that it is an option if you use EE on a Google Pixel 6.

I've used another network SIM in the past, and that DID have a preference for VoWiFi toggle.... it just wasn't a particularly good deal otherwise. So the Google Pixel 6 CAN have the preference ... it's just that iD don't have it enabled ... yet 😕😠 

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September 27, 2024

Hi @boothy99 

Understood. It just seems bizarre that on my Samsung phone, Google Assistant can open a sub-menu that is unaccessible from my built-in phone menu.

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September 27, 2024

Perhaps there are some subtle differences between the Google and Samsung versions of Android on the respective handsets, @gauge_boson

I’m guessing the OEMs are able to adjust/customise/tweak many areas in the Android OS for their h/w platform/s.

Is Google Gemini able to help in a similar manner?

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September 27, 2024

Hi @andewhite 

I have not tried the Google Gemini AI, but I guess that with there being such a tie-up between Samsung, Android and Google, there seems to be a loophole where the carrier can hide/unhide certain phone settings (Samsung told me that Three, EE, O2 etc can all do this), but Google Assistant seems to have its own separate, direct access in which can see the hidden menu... it is a loophole I hope Three do not close 😁